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Lord_Sauron
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on: April 13, 2019 12:25
Our Realm, of Vairë the has become VairÃ
Gandolorin
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on: April 13, 2019 01:24
Aw, that't probably just a switch from West Saxon to Mercian dialect of Old English (aka Anglo-Saxon).
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on: April 13, 2019 03:55
Lord_Sauron said:Our Realm, of Vairë the has become VairÃ
Poor nol couldn't log on because the accented letters weren't working properly.
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on: April 15, 2019 06:01
So it looks like some of the special characters had issues during the import from the backup. I'll start working on cleaning these up over the next week, starting with the user table.

Can those of you with some time see what sections/areas of the site are having this issue? From what I can see so far:

- user names (I'll try to have this resolved in the next day or so)
- some forum titles

If you're seeing any other sections having this issue, please post here. I'll post updates as I work on them over the next week.
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on: April 15, 2019 06:20
I've corrected Malinornë's name. I think this is the original ~nólemë~ for you nol. Can anyone contact her and ask?
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on: April 15, 2019 06:36
I'm back, thanks for the fix! It's a relief to be able to return. ^ ^
There are still users with weird symbols still in their their usernames, as I have noticed when fixing the special characters in the fanfiction character list (e.g. the user who wrote the last fic on the first page of the Silmarillion category; I can only guess what their original username could be). I have no idea if it can be done systemically.
I'll take a look at Humor and Gallery tomorrow to check, but I don't have as much admin access to these sections as I do with fanfic.
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on: April 15, 2019 06:37
The Realm names are corrupted in the forums, not in actual Realms.
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on: April 15, 2019 07:27
My sig quote and image has changed to someone else's on its own, what on Earth? O_o And I experienced a page with an error message (internal server error or something is what it said) when posting today, but when I refreshed the page my post showed up alright.
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on: April 16, 2019 03:22
I have this strange feeling I've had this problem before: my avatar has disappeared (my siggy ava is still visible). Now I'm certain that I chose it from among the Gandalf selection in CoE's gallery, but I have not been able to find it there anymore. And besides that, when I try to edit my profile / account, I don’t see any place where I could enter the necessary info for my avatar (or my siggy for that matter). It seems to me that I'm missing at least two options from my profile page.

Any suggestions? (I've been through some other threads but didn't find anything relevant to my current problem)
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Gandolorin
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on: April 16, 2019 03:42
While I’m at it – and I just switched my browser from Firefox to Edge – I constantly get the following error message when logging in to CoE:

“ERROR: Cookies are blocked or not supported by your browser. You must enable cookies to use WordPress.”

Now I had the people at my computer store check the Firefox settings relevant to cookies recently, and they did some adjustments. I have some additional modules active in Firefox (like a script-blocker), so that could have been one of my restrictive settings there. But since I switched my notebook from Win7 to Win10, I have not touched any of the standard settings for Edge, and I simply can’t imagine that Edge would have a cookie-blocker as a default (I need Edge for the approximately once-a-month Vairë Realm chat, as Firefox is no longer able to open or access a chatroom). When I phoned in to my computer store about this continuing error message despite their adjustments, and in Edge as well as Firefox, they were of the opinion that this must be caused by the CoE site and not by the browsers.

Just thought I’d mention this, as Rivka asked for us to notify her about all oddities.
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Dolwen
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on: April 16, 2019 04:01
You are correct Gando, the space to add your avatar info and your signature info on the Edit Profile seems to be missing.

[Edited on 04/16/2019 by Dolwen]
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on: April 16, 2019 04:33
^^ Not in Dashboard either.
Various avatars missing, looks random except all staff seem to have kept theirs.
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on: April 16, 2019 04:49
Gando, the cookie error has been happening for a long time. Ignore it, you still get logged in.

Noleme, I'm not working my way through 100,000 names to correct them. Not today anyway.
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on: April 16, 2019 07:43
Mine's missing too, and no place to upload a new one in my profile either (either to the site or by a URL to the image). I uploaded my latest one from Fan Pop, not from the site, though I noticed my avvy was converted back to my old one just prior to this happening (which was saved from the site).
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on: April 16, 2019 05:31
tarcolan said:
Noleme, I'm not working my way through 100,000 names to correct them. Not today anyway.


I beg your pardon? I was not asking you to. I was informing Rivka of an issue that is likely to prevent some members from logging into CoE.

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About the sig/avatar issue, I now recall I possibly had this new sig several years back, and it switched back to it on its own during the recent malfuction. The edit avatar/sig section seems to be missing from the profile page for everyone.

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Gando, but you can log in after several attempts, no? This is what I get when using my old WinXP PC with old Firefox (aka practically all the time), I just got used to getting this message but being able to log in eventually.

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ETA: the weird accent thing is in the Encyclopedia as well, but only disabling search for some accented 'related' items, it's not in the entry names themselves, nor in the definition texts, fortunately. Can that be resolved systemically? If not, who has access to the CoE encyclopedia's admin module? I think it was cirdaneth, but I haven't seen her around for ages, and I think she had some login problems before...?
If the fix cannot be done throughout CoE overall, and the weird characters in the Enc. would have to be fixed by hand, maybe with the current low numbers of staffers all admins could get (temporary) access to the Enc and fix whenever they stumble upon a weird character word in the 'related' line? Just an idea.

[Edited on 04/17/2019 by ~nólemë~]
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Gandolorin
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on: April 17, 2019 02:00
~nólemë~ said:... Gando, but you can log in after several attempts, no? This is what I get when using my old WinXP PC with old Firefox (aka practically all the time), I just got used to getting this message but being able to log in eventually. ...

Actually, I simply click on "Forum" in the top banner and get in without problems, with Firefox and Edge, I don't need several attempts, thankfully. I just wasn't sure I'd ever mentioned that cookie silliness here.
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on: April 17, 2019 02:59
Sorry nol, I was joking as usual. At first I thought the encyclopedia had escaped, but no.
An example from the encyclopedia -
http://www.councilofelrond.com/encyclopedia/pukel-men/
Only the 'Related items' is affected, not the main text. Looks like the 'fields' have been corrupted but not content. Was there always a 'HoME information' volume in the encyclopedia, I don't remember seeing it before.
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on: April 18, 2019 02:33
So...yeah. This is not going to be an easy fix, from what I can see.

Part of the issue is that a lot of your usernames are from the old (non-WordPress) site which allowed special characters, and WordPress doesn't (so it's having some issues). Part of it's various encoding issues from going back and forth from different site types, databases, etc. Part of it's because issues occurred during the backup import.

This is all kind of a mess. I can see a few different options to go from here:

1) Live with it and fix issues as they crop up.

2) I can try re-importing the backup from a few days ago, and try to prevent these issues from happening during the import. Downside is we lose anything from the last few days (not sure if that's even an issue/concern)

3) We can just say eff it, and put the site into static mode (no more updates, log-ins, etc), and leave it up as-is for whoever cares to look at this site anymore. That's really up to you guys and if you're still using this place; I'll put the effort into trying to fix this if you guys care enough.

Additionally, our server is having some sort of major issue right now (that may be tied into these issues). Support may need to take things offline for a while today, just a heads up.

Anyway, that's where we are right now. Sorry guys - it's an old site with a mongo huge database, and stuff like this happens.
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NenyaGold
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on: April 18, 2019 05:13
Rivka, if the site was more active, I'd vote for #1. But it's not. We tried to revive the realms but those in Yavanna who were active years ago have moved on. It also seems that few of the people who sign up are active.

#3 would make me very sad, but I would completely understand. I am honored to have been involved from nearly the beginning and have met some awesome people over the years, many in person. Maybe the time for CoE is over...

Thank you for all of these years! It's been a wonderful ride!
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on: April 18, 2019 06:01
I vote for #2.
I am not sure how #1 would look like so I cannot comment on that.
I would hate for #3 to happen, I enjoy returning here and speak to like-minded folk, plus it's so tame here, it's refreshing. I am not convinced this is 'it' for CoE. It's in the same position as other Tolkien forums and sites, from what I can assess. With the Amazon series and maybe something Silmarillion-based in the future, I am more or less sure CoE would experience a renaissance of sorts. However, it all comes down to how much this site is a burden on Rivka's time. I'd love to help out, but alas, I am not tech savvy at all, and would never figure out how to fix things like a non-functional PM box.

[Edited on 04/18/2019 by ~nólemë~]
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on: April 19, 2019 01:03
Like NenyaGold, #3 would make me very sad. But like ~nólemë~, I am also not tech savvy at all and have no idea how much time and effort Rivka would have to put into options 1 or 2. After more than 16 (or is it 17 by now?) years of keeping the site running, I could understand a certain fatigue creeping in as to continuing to do so for what is by now a small hard core. I only joined more than 11 years after the site was launched, so besides Menegilda Brandybuck I’m the “youngest” regular poster in terms of membership time (we had a handful of newbies who joined maybe a year or two ago, and were quite active, but who seem to have given up when we had some serious issues shortly after they joined).

My vote goes to whatever is the least drain on Rivka’s time and effort necessary to avoid option 3 – with the perhaps vague hope of a sort of revival coming into effect with the Amazon series. When I joined, with the Hobbit movies 2 and 3 still due out, there was much more action here. Did those movies also lead to a sort of revival after a dip in interest after the third LoTR EE came out in 2004?
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on: April 19, 2019 04:38
I would say #2 is worth a shot at least, a few days lost won't matter much. I would hate to see #3 happen for the same reasons as nol. I've been here nearly everyday for almost 15 years and it would be heart breaking to see it go.
But in the end I believe it is whatever is best for Rivka as she's the one that has to keep fixing everything and its not fair to burden her with these constant problems for only a handful of us who still come here regularly. I will accept whatever decision Rivka makes.
We really do appreciate all the time and effort you have put into CoE Rivka. Thank you for a wonderful site and years of great memories.

[Edited on 04/19/2019 by Dolwen]
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