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on: May 18, 2017 06:11
I know the word for 'hour' is 'lúmë' and I am aware there are words for days, months, years and so on; are there any words for sections of time smaller than an hour?

I cannot seem to find any words meaning "minute" or "second".

Can somebody help me with this?
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on: May 18, 2017 04:07
I don't think Elves that lived for an eternity bothered with small time units.
If you really want you might use fractions e.g. cantasta lúmëo "a quarter of an hour",
enquesta lúmëo "a sixth of an hour", etc.
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on: May 19, 2017 02:01
*wide smile*
This should be interesting.

"One sixtieth of an hour" - enenquainesta lúmëo

Alternatively I am thinking of as close a translation of the meaning as possible.
From the etymology page http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=minute&allowed_in_frame=0
I gather that the term "minute" pretty much comes to mean "small time". So why don't we use a similar term such as "cinta" (small) in a similar manner to mean the same thing?
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on: May 19, 2017 02:04
Also, if we do adopt the convention of using "small" to mean "minute" - would that mean we could define "second" as "one sixtieth of one minute"? "enenquainesta cinto"

Or would we follow in the etymologies of the term and define it as "second diminished part" and thus use attëa?

(for reference : http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=second&allowed_in_frame=0 )

[Edited on 05/19/2017 by erutan2099]
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on: May 19, 2017 04:22
Then why not mintë it also means "small", but is quite similar to "minute".
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on: May 19, 2017 02:52
Sure!

I was not previously aware of the term mintë. I see no reason why it would not be equally as valid. Perhaps variants?

What do you think, would adopting these conventions make sense?
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on: May 20, 2017 01:21
Yes, these seem to me very useful Neo-Quenya additions.
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on: May 24, 2017 01:25
Grammar check please:

After forty minutes and 30 seconds the trees will fall.
Apa canquain minti ar nelquain attëar i aldar ataltuva.

Two minutes is nothing for an Elf.
Atta mintu ná munta eldarin.

He won the game after only 11 seconds!
túrina i tyalië apa er minquë attëar!

Only 2 seconds? impossible!
Ma er atta attëu? Únat!

[Edited on 05/24/2017 by erutan2099]
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on: May 24, 2017 02:03
The dual mintu has an associated meaning of "both minutes", so either atta is superfluous or otherwise it's better to use an ordinary plural.
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on: May 25, 2017 01:17
Ah, duals; the eternal struggle is real.

Then that should apply to that last sentence as well, right?

Only 2 seconds? Impossible!
Ma er attëu? Únat!
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on: May 25, 2017 05:25
Yes, of course!
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