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Elfeawen Lomiondil
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on: December 25, 2015 02:30
I have not seen any Star Trek, but I like scifi (like Star Wars - don't look at me like that) and my uncle is trying to convince me to see Into Darkness. He says I will like it because it is more like SW than the others, and he also claims it makes a pretty good standalone so I can watch it without feeling unsatisfied with the ending. What do you think? Would anyone be willing to pm me with advice?
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on: December 26, 2015 12:51
I have the "Legends of The Final Frontier" DVD box, with the first ten ST films up to "Nemesis", plus special features on each DVD and an entire eleventh DVD dedicated entirely to special features (appendices have become all the rage since some obscure trilogy of a little more than a decade ago ... ). In addition, I have the prequel simply named "Star Trek" with the crew all young, and a somewhat puzzling presence of Leonard Nimoy as the old Spock (I forget the "reason" ).

I would say all off the movies may be watched as stand-alones, with the possible exception of ST II "The Wrath oh Khan" and ST III "The Search for Spock".

The first movie has been most criticized, as I remember - "motion-less picture" pops to mind as a comment - but I disagree, as I myself am very critical of the studios' practically autistic insistence on "more of the same". And I immediatlely apologize to all people afflicted by autism, as they did not choose it, while the form of autism of the studios (and a lot of management not involved in cinema) is self-inflicted, and more importantly, inflicted on millions of people who would rather do without it.

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Elfeawen Lomiondil
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on: December 26, 2015 03:16
Thank you. Can you tell me if there are multiple continuities, or if all films and shows are part of the same continuity? I have heard one major spoiler about Into Darkness that makes me hesitent to watch unless I know how it worked out.
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on: December 27, 2015 04:02
The only explicit continuity I (very vaguely) remember for TV is that Worf from "The Next Generation" was the security chief of "Deep Space Nine", at least at the beginning.

"Star Trek" from 2009 is the latest movie I have, so "Into Darkness" is in darkness for me.

Wikipedia has quite a bit of information that might be helpful.
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on: December 29, 2015 03:51
How have I only just come across this thread?! I was brought up on 60s Trek, and never looked back I would say TOS is my favourite series, as it has Mr. Spock (RIP Leonard Nimoy), but I also enjoy the others. I definitely say TNG is my second favourite series, as it has Picard, Q and Data amongst its crew.

With regards to 'Star Trek 2009' and 'Into Darkness', I liked them, but as seperate entities to the original series. I had to do the same when it came to the new Marvel universe films, as they will always upset the die hard fans one way or another. I was quite dubious about Benedict Cumberbatch playing Khan, but I think for the film, he did an excellent job... But I may be a tad biased as I like him as an actor?
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on: January 02, 2016 03:07
Gandolorin, I appreciate your advice.

With regards to 'Star Trek 2009' and 'Into Darkness', I liked them, but as seperate entities to the original series. Are they actually an "alternate universe" like the new Marvel films, or are they meant to fit into the old continuity? Itarilde, could you please tell me if Into Darkness ends on a cliffhanger, or is it standalone-ish?
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on: January 03, 2016 10:11
Elfeawen Lomiondil said:Gandolorin, I appreciate your advice.

With regards to 'Star Trek 2009' and 'Into Darkness', I liked them, but as seperate entities to the original series. Are they actually an "alternate universe" like the new Marvel films, or are they meant to fit into the old continuity? Itarilde, could you please tell me if Into Darkness ends on a cliffhanger, or is it standalone-ish?


I believe they are meant to be set in a different continuity, as of course, Vulcan existed in all of the Star Trek series and was never blown up by Romulans. But they still reference the original series for the die-hard fans.

As for 'Into Darkness', I don't remember it ending on a cliff-hanger, though it definitely had some parts that could lead to a sequel? It's been a while since I last down to watch it, in all honesty. I know that at the end of the film, they mention the Enterprise's five year mission, so there was that wedged in.
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on: January 05, 2016 07:39
Thanks a lot. That helps. And there is a sequel coming this year.
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on: June 26, 2016 03:04
I finally watched Into Darkness, and if anyone was wondering, it does make a good standalone. There are a few references to things that may have happened in the first movie (I don't know) but I almost always felt like I knew who people were and what was going on. It has a good and positive conclusion, but launches the crew on a new mission so that the series can continue.
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on: August 13, 2016 10:51
I finally got to watch the new film from this year 'Beyond', and I really enjoyed it. It was original, and as a big fan of Leonard Nimoy (RIP), I was quite moved by the real emotion displayed when Zachary Quinto talks about Spock Prime's death as Spock.

If you are Star Trek fan, new or old, do go and watch it. It is a great movie, and I know I'll be watching it many times in the future, just like the rest of my Star Trek collection!

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on: October 05, 2016 04:48
I had a blast with Beyond! I love the character interactions. And I adore Jaylah. I would like to see more of her.

I have seen all 3 new movies now, and rapidly went from kind of liking them to loving them to death. I know there are differences between the new stuff and the old stuff (casting, timeline, style/tone, special effects), but I am seriously tempted to try some of the old stuff. Could you recommend a Trek movie or TV series that you think that someone who likes the new movies might like too? Thanks!
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on: October 10, 2022 08:47
A bit of a necropost, but as a 'Trekkie' from way back, I'm loving 'Lower Decks'!
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