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uskomatonta
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Post FotR language problem
on: February 28, 2006 02:11
Having searched the web, I did not yet find an answer to the following:

In the FotR movie, Council of Elrond scene, Gimli tries to destroy the One ring with his axe... and fails. Immediately after this, the ring utters some words (in the black speech, I assume). Who knows what the ring says and what that means?

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Post RE: FotR language problem
on: February 28, 2006 03:41
Hmm, I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I thought the Ring mumbled the verse of the Ring, which would be:

Ash nazg durbatuluk,
Ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatuluk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

One Ring to rule them all,
One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.


But I can be completely mistaken though...
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Post RE: FotR language problem
on: February 28, 2006 05:32
Well, the ring repeats the

ash nazg gimbatul

when everyone is quarrelling right before Frodo accepts his fate to be the ring bearer. But in the part of the Council-of-Elrond scene I discribed in my initial post, the ring says something else, much shorter.
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Post RE: FotR language problem
on: February 28, 2006 08:05
There no other words he could say, he might say like: Ash durbatuluk; burzumishi -> only parts of the verse

Nonetheless I try to dig up something.
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Post RE: FotR language problem
on: February 28, 2006 09:23
I tried to catch what it utters, and I heard the words: sherkuk, Daghburz;

I found there are two more phrases in Black Speech:
See here and here
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Post RE: FotR language problem
on: March 02, 2006 03:06
Thanks, Nendhinen. This is a good starting point and I did not yet know about this second source of black speech. I thought that Tolkien only brought up the ring verse and no other information on black speech.

However, I wonder why there is no official information about these things from the LotR-movie crew - someone has written the script to the film and hence must know it. Probably Salo.
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