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Post Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 20, 2003 09:37
Aiya ilquen,

I have re-edited the days of the week after much consideration and looking at information given to me by Tasarwen.
Quenya

Saturday : Elenya
Sunday : Anarya
Monday : Isilya
Tuesday : Aldúya
Wednesday : Menelya
Thursday : Eärenya
Friday : Valanya (or Tárion)

January : Narvinye
February : Nénimë
March : Súlimë
April : Víressë
May : Lótessë
June : Nárië
July : Cermië
August : Úrimë
September : Yavannië
October : Narquelië
November : Hísimë
December : Ringarë

Namárie - LadyMeg



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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 21, 2003 05:54
Aiya LadyMeg...on another forum I found a list that is somewhat different than your's. They said that the first day of the Eldarin week is Saturday (Elenya). From there it was listed:

2. Sunday - Anarya
3. Monday - Isilya
4. Tuesday - Alduya
5. Wednesday - Menelya
6. Thursday - Valanya
7. Friday - Earenya

Is there any way that we can check this out and see what is correct?

FWIW...This list is incorrect!

[Edited on 23/5/2003 by Tasarwen]
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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 21, 2003 08:08
Perhaps the confusion is due to the different "weeks" - the "original" Eldarin week had only six days, but the Númenoreans added a seventh day, Eärenya after the heaven´s day. So it would not be the last day of the week! Also, the fourth day in this 7-day week was renamed "Aldëa", to refer only to the one white tree of Númenor instead of the Valinorean two trees.
It seems that Saturday was indeed considered to be the first day of the week, but Tolkien himself "translated" Starday as "Monday", since it was the beginning of the "work week" and the day for rest was "Highday" (Valanya)
This information comes from ROTK, Appendix D.
So it seems to me that Tasarwen´s list is the technically most correct one, but LadyMeg´s is more practical. And both lists have "Seaday" in the wrong place

[Edited on 21/5/2003 by Malinornë]
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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 21, 2003 10:47
Hantalë Malinornë....and I like the thought of Sunday being Anarya as in "anar" being "sun". Also, Monday being Isilya as in "isil" being "moon". Isn't that the neatest thing?

Almië...Tasarwen
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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 21, 2003 02:58
Aiya ilquen,

I fixed up the week properly and yes I had sea-day around the wrong way for Sunday instead of Saturday, but fixed that error all the other days are correct in number order.

Accept for Wednesday " Elenya"? I am unsure of if it goes there or not will fix the week days up if anyone knows the correct order!!!

Hantale! for all your help much appreciated as I would like to get it right :love:

Namarie - LadyMeg

[Edited on 22/5/2003 by LadyMeg]
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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 21, 2003 06:20
Tasarwen, yes I also like the thought of the day of the Sun corresponding to our Sunday, and it seems that was what Tolkien intended *but* he also says that the "use" of the days was different from ours, so he chose to "translate" them differently. Please refer to the ROTK appendix.
I think, since most of us have learnt what Quenya we know from Ardalambion, the most practical thing to do would be to use the translation given in the wordlists there.
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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 22, 2003 07:20
Aiya meldonyar...I did some snooping in the Appendix (D) of The Lord of the Rings and this is what I found:

Elenya - star day...(this was the first day of the week)
Anarya - sun day
Isilya - moon day
Aldúya - tree day
Menelya - heavens' day
Eärenya - sea day (added by the Númenoreans)
Valanya - Valar day

Also:

The Hobbit week was taken from the Dúnedain, and the names were translations of those given to the days in the old North-kingdom, which in their turn were derived from the Eldar....Every year began on the first day of the week, Saturday, and ended on the last day of the week, Friday.


From this can we say that the first day of the Eldarin week is the same as our Saturday?...and therefore Saturday = Elenya?

What do you all think?
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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 23, 2003 02:45
This is alittle confusing. So would this be correct?

Saturday-Elenya - star day...(this was the first day of the week)
Sunday-Anarya - sun day
Monday-Isilya - moon day
Tuesday-Aldúya - tree day
Wednsday-Menelya - heavens' day
Thursday-Eärenya - sea day (added by the Númenoreans)
Friday-Valanya - Valar day

or is this one on the second post correct?
6. Thursday - Valanya
7. Friday - Earenya
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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 23, 2003 02:53
Aiya Aniron_Valandil....My initial post was indeed incorrect and after reading the Appendix of The Lord of the Rings, I made the correction. Perhaps someone else can verify what I found out from that Appendix.
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Post RE: Quenya Days Of The Week & Year
on: May 23, 2003 01:19
Aiya ilquen,

I edited the days of week according to what Gildor Inglorion told me the first day of the week is Sunday " Elenya".

I hope that clears that one all up


Namarie - LadyMeg
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