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on: May 18, 2006 01:32
Hi, there, this is great that you offer your time for this, thanks so much!

1. I would like three similar phrases transcribed (if it's not too much trouble): "Im alchoth Morgoth" (sindarin), as well as: "Umin cotumo Moringotto" (quenya), or possibly in English too: "I am no foe of Morgoth"

2. I don't really care too much about the mode, what ever you think looks best!

3. I would love it in the One Ring Insription Style!

I can't wait to see what you come up with, I'm sure it will be beautiful, thanks so much Uialdil!!!

[Edited on 18/5/2006 by the_bonnef]
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on: May 21, 2006 06:01
1.) Adahy
2.) English Orthographic Tehta Mode and Full-writing mode
3.) One Ring Inscription Style and formal book hand style
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on: May 22, 2006 09:28
Hi there, I'm really sorry to bother you again, but I was wondering if you could do the following for me:

1.) forever
2.) Orthographic tetha mode and phonemic mode
3.) one ring and verse

a thousand thank yous.
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on: May 24, 2006 05:14
1. Hope, Logic
2. Phonemic Mode.
3. Formal Book Hand

You have such talent at this, it's amazing. Thank you again
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on: May 24, 2006 08:22
. I would like three similar phrases transcribed (if it's not too much trouble): "Im alchoth Morgoth" (sindarin), as well as: "Umin cotumo Moringotto" (quenya), or possibly in English too: "I am no foe of Morgoth"
2. I don't really care too much about the mode, what ever you think looks best!
3.One Ring Insription Style!


The top line is the Sindarin, the middle one is the Quenya, and the English version is on the bottom.

Im alchoth Morgoth.
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on: May 24, 2006 08:24
1.) Adahy
2.) English Orthographic Tehta Mode and Full-writing mode
3.) One Ring Inscription Style and formal book hand style


Adahy
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on: May 24, 2006 08:27
1.) forever
2.) Orthographic tetha mode and phonemic mode
3.) one ring and verse

forever
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on: May 26, 2006 10:20
Thank you so much Uialdil!!! That looks so awesome, i'm so excited about it!
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on: May 27, 2006 11:29
1.) forever
2.) Orthographic tetha mode and phonemic mode
3.) one ring and verse

forever


thank you so, so much.
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on: June 02, 2006 06:33
1. Hope, Logic
2. Phonemic Mode.
3. Formal Book Hand


Hope, Logic
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on: June 02, 2006 11:55
1. Hope, Logic
2. Phonemic Mode.
3. Formal Book Hand


Hope, Logic


Oh man. I can never get over how beautiful the script work is.
Thank you so much.
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on: July 02, 2006 05:24
Uialdil_i_degilbor:

If I remember rightly, you posted a link to a then new and very beautiful tengwar font some time ago. Unfortunately I don't succede in finding it again, maybe it was somewhere in the Sindarin Forum.
I would be very grateful for any information!
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on: July 04, 2006 04:59
1. Britta
2. I don't get this part, but it just can be a transcription of the letters, quenya style (?)
3. Formal book hand, one ring

I will explain why, I came by a website of a man who does these transcriptions too. And he does a nice way of caligraphy. So I decided I want my name, in elvish tattoed. But I need a check, if he does it right. I also can give you the website, if you want to take a look at it.

[Edited on 4/7/2006 by Minto]
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on: July 14, 2006 02:06
both names please

gandalf ...&...mithrandir
mode of beleriand
formal book hand



i say thank ya
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on: July 16, 2006 04:10
gandalf....mithrandir
mode of beleriand
formal book hand


so happy for any help like many i want a tattoo
and have been so confused by all the translator sights
so if you could end all the madness and show me
waht these two words look like
in the above mode and book hand i would be most happy
and say thank ya
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on: July 18, 2006 12:19
Uialdil_i_degilbor:

If I remember rightly, you posted a link to a then new and very beautiful tengwar font some time ago. Unfortunately I don't succede in finding it again, maybe it was somewhere in the Sindarin Forum.
I would be very grateful for any information!


That would be Johan Winge's Tengwar Annatar font. It is a beautiful font, and the Italic version is the closest thing to the One Ring inscription style currently available: far better than Harri Perälä's Tengwar Cursive.

http://home.student.uu.se/jowi4905/fonts/annatar.html

Johan Winge has created a new font called Tengwar Telcontarbased on Tolkien's calligraphy on the King's Letter for use with either Windows 2000/XP or Linux. It is the closest thing to Tolkien's rendering of Formal Book Hand. It is not easy to use, and you must download World Pad (that is not the same thing as Word Pad) in order to use it properly, but it is a great font!

http://home.student.uu.se/jowi4905/fonts/tengtelc/index.php
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on: July 18, 2006 12:47
1. Britta
2. I don't get this part, but it just can be a transcription of the letters, quenya style (?)
3. Formal book hand, one ring


We can't use a true Quenya mode because there is no way to write the letter b at the beginning of a word in Quenya. We can write with an English mode that places vowel tehtar on the preceding tengwar as in Quenya. It is more usual to write the tehtar over the following tengwar, but the other way is not unheard of: Tolkien stated that it could be done.

Britta
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on: July 18, 2006 12:59

gandalf ...&...mithrandir
mode of beleriand
formal book hand


The mode of Beleriand was devised by the Noldor living in northern Middle-earth to write Sindarin ... and only Sindarin. Gandalf is not a Sindarin name, so it can't be written in the mode of Beleriand. It can, however be written in a full-writing mode that is akin to the Beleriandic mode. Mithrandir, is Sindarin, of course, so writing it in the mode of Beleriand poses no problem.

Gandalf, Mithrandir
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on: July 21, 2006 11:24
1. Britta
2. I don't get this part, but it just can be a transcription of the letters, quenya style (?)
3. Formal book hand, one ring


We can't use a true Quenya mode because there is no way to write the letter b at the beginning of a word in Quenya. We can write with an English mode that places vowel tehtar on the preceding tengwar as in Quenya. It is more usual to write the tehtar over the following tengwar, but the other way is not unheard of: Tolkien stated that it could be done.

Britta


Thank you very much, I love the way it looks, although I tried myself doing it, but this looks much better. Is it possible to get a high resolution image of it? Because I would like to use it for a tattoo, and then I can enlarge it as much as I want. I'll be honest, there is a website wich asks money for it, and I am ready to pay for it too. So if you should charge anything, maybe we can work something out?
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on: July 22, 2006 08:11

Johan Winge has created a new font called Tengwar Telcontarbased on Tolkien's calligraphy on the King's Letter for use with either Windows 2000/XP or Linux.


Many thanks, that is the font I was looking for!
Installation and use seem to be rather complicated, but I shall give it a try.
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on: July 24, 2006 02:28
I see you and say thank ya
you have been so wonderful
may I please ask of you yet another boon
I have been vacillating between tattoo ideas
and scripts styles
is it to much to ask to see the following words
in all the script modes you have available
quenya/ring inscription style etc...
now that i have seen so many words in quenya
i think i like the look of the over dots for vouls
its visually pleasing and of course the ring inscription style
is also so fantastic
you translated mithrandir for me into sindarin
it is beautiful but i would love to see it in quenya
if that is possible
also someone i know told me christopher would be translated
erucolindo does that seem right i know eru is the one
or one god and i think colindo is bearer i know christopher is christ bearer so is that the closest

erucolindo...mithrandir...istari...gandalf
mode quenya
mode ring inscription
any other you think would look best for tatoo
formal book hand

again I say thank ya long days pleasant nights
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on: July 31, 2006 04:08
hi ya

i would like to know
"elf" (my nickname) and "taru" (legend, mythe in finnish)

i am completly new here and dont know about the writing style or whatever...
just something that looks nice for a tattoo.

thank you already
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on: August 01, 2006 11:36
I am a huge fan of Tolkien and am truly inspired by his work and the languages of middle earth, I have come to love the look of Tengwar and desire to have a tatoo of something close to my heart tattooed on me... the word "friendship". I have tried to transcibre this myself and believe I am correct in using the word "gwend" for this and I also think that I have figured out the tengwar correctly but I would really like an experienced opinion of someone with your knowledge before I go ahead and get a permanent tattoo please! I have been looking at the work you have done here on this forum and I am in awe, it is incredible! I cant wait to see more! Thanks a lot in advance for your help.


Okay heres my request

Friendship ("gwend")
Elvish Sindarin Tehta Mode
Formal Book Hand


Thanks again

FriX

[Edited on 2/8/2006 by frix]
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on: August 02, 2006 09:53
This is really a nice service. It is really fantastic of you to do this.

1) Henrik

2) English, and phonemic and orthographic tehta mode

3) Formal book hand, one ring

I could be extremely nice if you could do that for me. I hope it is possible
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on: August 03, 2006 04:59

erucolindo...mithrandir...istari...gandalf
mode quenya
mode ring inscription
any other you think would look best for tatoo
formal book hand


Erucolindo is Neo-Quenya, and Istari is Quenya, so writing them in a Quenya mode is no problem:

Erucolindo, Istari

Mithrandir and Gandalf, however, are not Quenya names and cannot be written in a Quenya mode. The mode is determined by the language being represented by the tengwar. If you want Gandalf's name written in the classical Quenya mode, you must write his Quenya name, which was Olórin:

Olórin
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on: August 03, 2006 05:04

i would like to know
"elf" (my nickname) and "taru" (legend, mythe in finnish)


I wrote 'Elf' in two different modes. For 'taru', I used the Finnish mode described by Harri Perälä. The writing style is a version of formal book hand.

Elf, taru
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on: August 03, 2006 05:13

Friendship ("gwend")
Elvish Sindarin Tehta Mode
Formal Book Hand


Please understand that the mode that I refer to as the Elvish Sindarin Tehta Mode is very poorly attested. My guess is that it was a mode used by the Sindar while the mode of Beleriand was devised and used by the Noldor. What we do have attested in this mode are the names Lúthien Tinúviel and Imladris. Because of the paucity of examples by Tolkien, I have given four modes: the Elvish Sindarin Tehta Mode (hypothetical), the Mode of Beleriand, the Mannish Sindarin Tehta Mode and the Mannish Sindarin Full-Writing Mode. You'll notice that the differences aren't huge.

Gwend
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on: August 03, 2006 05:16

1) Henrik

2) English, and phonemic and orthographic tehta mode

3) Formal book hand, one ring


Henrik
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on: August 03, 2006 10:38
Thx very much! This just look awsome!
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on: August 04, 2006 08:32
thank you very much!!!

sorry that i have another question.
could you write the "elf" and "elvira"
in the way as you did with the
olórin and erucolino, istari? (above my other question)
and than the one at the bottom.

already a big thank you!
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on: August 04, 2006 04:44
never done this before - so bear with me. My knowledge of tengwar comes from Thorsten Renk's Pedin Edhellen. I would like to write "amdir" (possibly for a tattoo). Question, though - one is supposed to use the ore instead of a romen at the end of a word? I like the looks of the romen, but I'm not sure how to interpret Renk's statement "in general, it is nicer to end a word with a closed ore..." How hard and fast of a rule is that? I like pretty, but I don't want to be glaringly wrong either.

So, since you're kindly offering, could you transcribe:
amdir
mannish sindarin tehta mode
formal book hand (and verse hand, if you're bored...)

many thanks
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on: August 05, 2006 07:17

erucolindo...mithrandir...istari...gandalf
mode quenya
mode ring inscription
any other you think would look best for tatoo
formal book hand


Erucolindo is Neo-Quenya, and Istari is Quenya, so writing them in a Quenya mode is no problem:

Erucolindo, Istari

Mithrandir and Gandalf, however, are not Quenya names and cannot be written in a Quenya mode. The mode is determined by the language being represented by the tengwar. If you want Gandalf's name written in the classical Quenya mode, you must write his Quenya name, which was Olórin:

Olórin


i see you and thank ya big big
you are the middle earth saint of the web
the scrips are so beautiful
again thank ya
long days and pleasant nights
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on: August 07, 2006 10:26
Cry for help again:

1. Frodo wouldn't have got far without Sam.
2. English orthorgraphic spelling and phonemic spelling.
3. Formal book hand.

BTW, do you know Laura Cooper? She taught tengwar writing in the ELF during Jul 28~30.
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on: August 08, 2006 02:14
Hi,

You've done some beautiful work. In fact I got a tattoo of one that you did a few months past. I'm looking for another one that you might be able to help me out with.

1. The beginning is always today
2. Orthographic Tehta Mode
3. Calligraphic rendering (like the ones did you did for "not all those who wonder are lost" and "the journey is my home"


Thanks so much and looking forward to what you come up with.
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on: August 11, 2006 05:55

could you write the "elf" and "elvira"


Elf, Elvira
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