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on: September 09, 2005 03:30
Thank you soo much, I gasped, it's gorgeous!
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on: September 10, 2005 05:28
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on: October 09, 2005 08:14
Hi,
Let's see if I can do this right.
1. The Old That Is Strong Does Not Wither
2. Orthographic Tetha Mode, and Phonemic Mode
3. One Ring, and Formal Bookhand

Thanks so much!
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on: October 09, 2005 09:04
1.Elwen (one L)
2. Mode of Beleriand, the Mannish Sindarin Full Writing Mode, the Mannish Sindarin Tehta Mode
3. one ring, verse hand

I'm asking for all these versions because I'm trying to incorporate the name into an art piece and I don't know which one will look best. So I would like to be able to choose between a few versions. Thank you!

:love:

[Edited on 10/10/2005 by Ellwen]
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on: October 10, 2005 02:40

1. The Old That Is Strong Does Not Wither
2. Orthographic Tetha Mode, and Phonemic Mode
3. One Ring, and Formal Bookhand


The old that is strong does not wither.
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on: October 11, 2005 11:44
Hi,
I'm in the midst of setting up a small personal website and I would love to have it's name translated into Tengwar, if that's possible.

here goes ....

1. The Realm of Anórien
2. Sindarin classic mode
3. Formal book hand and cursive (one ring).

your help would be much appreciated ...

Cheers ... ~ L ~
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on: October 12, 2005 07:04
1.Elwen (one L)
2. Mode of Beleriand, the Mannish Sindarin Full Writing Mode, the Mannish Sindarin Tehta Mode
3. one ring, verse hand


Elwen
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on: October 12, 2005 07:10

1. The Realm of Anórien
2. Sindarin classic mode
3. Formal book hand and cursive (one ring).


I need some clarification here. You gave a title in English, but requested a Sindarin mode. (By 'classic,' I assume you mean the Mannish Sindarin Tehta Mode.) Did you want the title in Sindarin (I Ardh Anórien)? If you want the English in tengwar, you need to choose an English mode rather than a Sindarin one.
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on: October 12, 2005 12:52
Thank you, Uialdil_i_degilbor!
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on: October 22, 2005 04:25
Apologies in advance if this isn't quite suitable. What I'm looking for is Sindarin characters that correspond to the English letters 'OGS' and the number '20'. This is probably classed as translation. Anyway:

1. OGS
1. 20
2. Mode Of Beleriand
3. Doors Of Durin Inscription & One Ring Inscription Styles
(Hope I'm not taking liberties asking for more than 1 style!)

I'm thinking of getting either the letters or number (perhaps both) as a tattoo so I obviously need expert advice. I'd also like to add my appreciation for this thread, Uialdil_i_degilbor, and my admiration for your knowledge. I've tried studying Elvish a few times but always get totally lost! :blush:

Le hannon!


[Edited on 23/10/2005 by Grey_Pilgrim]
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on: October 26, 2005 09:35
dude. where did you learn to speak quenya so well? i'd love to be able to do that, but i seem to have a bit of a mental block with languages that aren't my own. i was also wondering why the first nonvowel letter in the inscription on The Ring is a c (unless i'm being really stupid) when in the english alphabet version the first nonvowel letter is an s.
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on: October 28, 2005 06:47
Hello!
For about 3 years I've been wanting to do a tattoo written "love" in elvish. The same elvish that the lads from LOTR movies did their "9" tattoo. I started a thread about it, and lovely Fíriel told me that they used Tengwar. So, can someone please tell me how do I write "love" in Tengwar?

Thanks!! :heart:
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on: October 29, 2005 05:46
1. OGS
1. 20
2. Mode Of Beleriand
3. Doors Of Durin Inscription & One Ring Inscription Styles
(Hope I'm not taking liberties asking for more than 1 style!)


The mode of Beleriand is used for Sindarin only. The tengwa for g (anga) would be read as j in an English mode. It would be better to actually use an English mode to write English initials; that's what I provided in the link.

Numerals are written from right to left in tengwar, so 20 is actually written as 02. We have no example of numerals written in any style other than the Formal Book Hand. The numerals written in other styles would be similar to the Formal Book Hand version.

OSG / 20
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on: October 29, 2005 06:03
dude. where did you learn to speak quenya so well?


I don't speak Quenya; no one does. Not even Tolkien spoke Quenya. I've done some studying of Quenya and Sindarin and picked up what I could.

i was also wondering why the first nonvowel letter in the inscription on The Ring is a c (unless i'm being really stupid) when in the english alphabet version the first nonvowel letter is an s.


The first consonant in the ring inscription is the tengwa harma (also called aha). The first word of the ring inscription is ash:
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In the calligraphy style written on the One Ring, it is written as;
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The tengwa harma has the sound of h in Quenya and the sound of ch in Sindarin written with the mode of Beleriand. In English and the Black Speech (which is used on the One Ring), harma has the sound of sh in English 'ship'.
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on: October 30, 2005 02:08
The mode of Beleriand is used for Sindarin only. The tengwa for g (anga) would be read as j in an English mode. It would be better to actually use an English mode to write English initials; that's what I provided in the link.

Numerals are written from right to left in tengwar, so 20 is actually written as 02. We have no example of numerals written in any style other than the Formal Book Hand. The numerals written in other styles would be similar to the Formal Book Hand version.

OSG / 20


Thank you, Uialdil_i_degilbor, much appreciated.
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on: November 01, 2005 10:47
Suilad Uialdil_i_degilbor,

I have a little problem with writting the following text in Tengwar, so I hope you can help me. It is in Sinsdarin.

The text is as follow:

An i ú nathant
An i naun ului
A chuil, anann cuiannen
A meleth, perónen

Olorë e Golodh

2) I don't know, just like what is most common.
3) Formal book hand and Verse book, if it is not to much work.

Thanks a lot,
Ranwen

PS. the white line between the forth and fifth had to be there.
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on: November 02, 2005 07:42
Hello!
For about 3 years I've been wanting to do a tattoo written "love" in elvish. The same elvish that the lads from LOTR movies did their "9" tattoo. I started a thread about it, and lovely Fíriel told me that they used Tengwar. So, can someone please tell me how do I write "love" in Tengwar?


The Nine tattoo was not in Elvish; it was in English written in tengwar.

Using the mode that was used for the tattoo, love would be written this way:

Love1

The more common way of representing English used by far more fans is:

Love2

If you would prefer the Elvish word for 'love', it is melmë in Quenya and meleth in Sindarin:

Melmë/Meleth
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on: November 02, 2005 12:41
The Nine tattoo was not in Elvish; it was in English written in tengwar.

Using the mode that was used for the tattoo, love would be written this way:

Love1

So this one is written as was the tattoos? Yay! Thank you a lot!
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on: November 13, 2005 03:40
Hey, I just have to say that what you are doing here is absolutely FANTASTIC and your talent is blowing me away. You're amazing!
However, I'm going to be a huge nuisance and let you play artist. I've been fascinated with the thought of getting a LotR-related-tattoo for ages but I've always been terrified of getting something on my arm that, when translated, turns out to be complete gibberish. But after looking around this thread I have complete faith in you and your work. And on the other hand, I'm intrigued at the thought of what my name would look like as a transcription

1) focus
1) Alexandria
2) Orthographic Tehta and Full-Writing Mode
3) Formal Book Hand and Verse Book
*I'm so sorry I am asking for so much*

Tons and tons of thanks go out to you.

[Edited on 14/11/2005 by Maiden_of__Mirkwood]
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on: November 19, 2005 04:15

1) focus
1) Alexandria
2) Orthographic Tehta and Full-Writing Mode
3) Formal Book Hand and Verse Book


Focus / Alexandria
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on: November 20, 2005 07:24
oh my gosh, they are absolutely STUNNING.
I can't thank you enough :love:
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on: November 28, 2005 02:52
Suilad Uialdil_i_degilbor,

On the second of november I post this. Maby you are still busy, but I was wondering if you had read it, because you give some feedback to someone else.
Hope you are not angry that I ask it you again :angel:

I have a little problem with writting the following text in Tengwar, so I hope you can help me. It is in Sinsdarin.

The text is as follow:

An i ú nathant
An i naun ului
A chuil, anann cuiannen
A meleth, perónen

Olorë e Golodh

2) I don't know, just like what is most common.
3) Formal book hand and Verse book, if it is not to much work.

Thanks a lot,
Ranwen

PS. the white line between the forth and fifth had to be there.
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on: December 14, 2005 12:43
hey all..

well, i have been doing tengwar since I was 14, that was 2 years ago.. well, I can read and write properly now, for both Quenyan, Sindarin, and Blackspeech modes, but, Im more into the Common mode (english). For those familiar with the Tengwar Scribe program, (I use this to computerize what I write instead of scanning or typing manually), I have made a mode file for the english modes to fit the latest version of DanSmith's tengwar font sets. I will upload it soon if anyone would ask.
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on: December 30, 2005 04:57
Suilad Uialdil_i_degilbor

Wow, this thread has been very helpful! I've made an attempt to transcribe the Sindarin translation of my name but I'd really like to double check it. Unfortunately, I can't link to what I came up with. Anyway, here is what I'm looking for:

1) Bronaduieth
2) Mode of Beleriand and Mannish Sindarin Tehta Mode
3) Formal Bookhand and Versehand
4) calligraphic rendering

Hope it's not too much to ask. I'm looking for some nice designs that would work as a tattoo and I want to be sure the transcription is accurate. Thanks so much for your assistance!
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on: December 31, 2005 07:50
Hello,

I am really not very good at this stuff so forgive me if I seem ignorant! I am looking to get a tattoo in the future and I was wondering if you could translate the following lines seperately:

1.'forgetting you but not the time'
'eternal sunshine of the spotless mind'
2.orthographic tetha and phonemic mode
3. one ring and verse hand

thank you very much
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on: January 06, 2006 10:05
I am currently having problems with my scanner, but they should be resolved soon, and I will be able to catch up with transcription requests.
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on: January 06, 2006 03:35
Hi! I was wondering if you could help me with something.
I have quite a few LOTR fonts specifically tengwar on my computer, but none of them seem to be the correct one for the inscription on the Doors of Durin. If you know of where I can get my hands on a downloadable version of this font (for Mac please) I would very much appreciate it. Thanks!
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on: January 30, 2006 09:19
This is my daughter’s name and I want to get it tattooed on my back.

1.) Autumn
2.) English Orthographic Tehta Mode and Full-writing mode
3.) One Ring Inscription Style and formal book hand style

I know you are having scanner problems so no hurry of course. I just wanted to put my request down. I was trying to sign up with the website for months now but never received the confirmation e-mail until I figured out what the problem was.

I think I finally figured out the difference between English Orthographic theta mode and full writing mode, theta mode uses the symbols for the vowels and full mode doesn’t?, but I haven’t figured put the phonemic mode. Thanks.
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on: February 07, 2006 06:30
An i ú nathant
An i naun ului
A chuil, anann cuiannen
A meleth, perónen

Olorë e Golodh


Before transcribing this text into tengwar, I strongly urge you to ask for a translation check on the main board. There are some points that need some work. For example, an i contracts to 'ni: that is attested. Perónen? I have never seen that word anywhere. Olorë (or actually more correctly Olórë) is Quenya, not Sindarin. Even the Noldor whose original names were Quenya used Sindarin translations or Sindarinised forms of their names when writing in Sindarin. And I don't understand why you have e Golodh; e is the pronoun meaning 'he'. 'He Noldo' doesn't make sense.
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on: February 07, 2006 06:33

1) Bronaduieth
2) Mode of Beleriand and Mannish Sindarin Tehta Mode
3) Formal Bookhand and Versehand


Bronaduieth
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on: February 07, 2006 06:37
1.'forgetting you but not the time'
'eternal sunshine of the spotless mind'
2.orthographic tetha and phonemic mode
3. one ring and verse hand


Forgetting you, but not the time

Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
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on: February 07, 2006 06:42

I have quite a few LOTR fonts specifically tengwar on my computer, but none of them seem to be the correct one for the inscription on the Doors of Durin.


Unfortunately, there is no font of that particular calligraphy style. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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on: February 07, 2006 06:53

1.) Autumn
2.) English Orthographic Tehta Mode and Full-writing mode
3.) One Ring Inscription Style and formal book hand style


Autumn

I think I finally figured out the difference between English Orthographic theta mode and full writing mode, theta mode uses the symbols for the vowels and full mode doesn’t?, but I haven’t figured put the phonemic mode. Thanks.


The phonemic modes that Tolkien devised were based on pronunciation rather than traditional spelling. All of the phonemic modes for English were full-writing modes. I don't know of a single example of an English phonemic mode by Tolkien that used tehtar to represent vowels. The particular phonemic mode that I use in this thread is the one found in the So Lúthien... manuscript in The Lays of Beleriand. This is the same mode that is used in Tolkien's three Elvish script samples published in the Silmarillion Calendar 1978.
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on: February 07, 2006 04:05
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it. It's great to finally be able to see it after months of trying to register with the website and getting no result.

Also, thanks for the explanation. I pretty much get it now. Thanks a bunch.
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on: February 08, 2006 09:23
1.'forgetting you but not the time'
'eternal sunshine of the spotless mind'
2.orthographic tetha and phonemic mode
3. one ring and verse hand


Forgetting you, but not the time

Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind


thank you so,so much!absolutely gorgeous.
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